ΤΡΕΜΟΥΝ !!!!

Τρέμουν όλοι μην τυχόν και αρνηθούμε να πληρώσουμε τα χρέη και δεν γίνουμε οι πουτάνες του ΔΝΤ. Ειλικρινά, μπορούμε να τους κάνουμε να χορέψουν ,αρκεί να μην φανούμε κότες, τώρα όμως που είναι αδύναμοι και τρέμουν μην καταρρεύσει το άθλιο πιστωτικό τους σύστημα.
Που είναι ρε ένας πρωθυπουργός με Π κεφαλαίο ;Να αρπάξει από τα αρχίδια όλη την άθλια τρόικα και όχι τους συμπολίτες του;
Διαβάστε το άρθρο του BBC να δείτε πως φοβούνται την κατάρρευσή αν τυχόν και αρνηθούμε ή επαναδιαπραγματευτούμε το χρέος που μας φόρτωσαν.
Οι μεγάλοι ηγέτες και οι μεγάλοι λαοί στα δύσκολα φαίνονται.
Χωρίς υπερβολή , αυτές είναι οι σύγχρονες Θερμοπύλες μας και η Σαλαμίνα μας.
Αρκεί να μην φοβηθούμε και αρκεί να βρεθεί ένας Λεωνίδας και ένας Θεμιστοκλής , αλλά μην ψάχνετε κανέναν τέτοιον ανάμεσα στα 300 τρωκτικά.
Πιστέψτε το , ΜΑΣ ΦΟΒΟΥΝΤΑΙ

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EU finance ministers are set to meet in Brussels to discuss establishing a new "stabilisation mechanism" to prevent the Greek debt crisis from spreading.

The mechanism, which is being compared to a European-style IMF, would be available to the 16 member states in the eurozone.

Some leaders want details agreed before markets open on Monday, to prevent investor fears over the euro spreading.

But other countries, including the UK, oppose such large-scale support.

On Friday, the leaders of the 16 countries that use the single currency approved an 110bn euro ($145bn; £95bn) loan package to Greece, which is backed by the EU and IMF.

They also agreed to take whatever steps were needed to protect the euro, and to accelerate budget cuts and ensure deficits were addressed.

Correspondents say they are looking to agree on funding of between 50bn and 70bn euros that could be made available immediately to countries in trouble.

While bail-outs are banned under EU rules, the Commission reportedly plans to extend an existing clause in the Lisbon Treaty originally designed to allow it to provide aid to member states experiencing serious difficulties that was used to help Hungary and Latvia.

'Watertight defence'

But the Commission is also seeking approval for a much more ambitious mechanism that could be used to fund hundreds of billions of dollars of loans.

The BBC's Jonny Dymond in Brussels says officials at the European Commission have laboured throughout the weekend to rush through these plans.

Under the proposals, the Commission would borrow money for the stabilisation mechanism directly on the markets to guarantee troubled country's debts.
Officials hope the loan guarantees would prevent the crisis in Greece spreading to other eurozone countries with high deficits or debts as well as low economic growth, most notably Portugal, Spain and Ireland.

"Between now and Sunday night we will have a watertight line of defence," Eurogroup Chairman Jean-Claude Juncker said on Saturday.

"We have to make it clear that all eurozone countries are ready to defend each and every eurozone country, because they want to defend the eurozone as a whole," he added.

Our correspondent says political acceptance from EU nations is critical.

The UK may be happy with the 70bn euro emergency package, but it is not prepared to be part of any EU-style IMF guaranteeing loans.

Deciding the contribution of each country to the stabilisation mechanism could also be a stumbling block.

Fears that a debt default by Greece could paralyse the world's financial system - just as the collapse of Lehman Brothers did two years ago - caused European, US and Asian stock markets to plunge in the past week.

President Obama wants a stable European economy

On Friday, bankers urged the European Central Bank to become the "buyer of last resort" of eurozone government bonds to steady markets.

The president of the European Central Bank, Jean-Claude Trichet, said it had not yet discussed the move but was willing to respond to unfolding events.

The Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy have cancelled foreign trips because of the severity of the crisis.

In an interview with Russian media on Saturday, US President Barack Obama said: "I am very concerned about what's happening in Europe. But I think it is an issue that the Europeans recognise is very serious."

Πηγή : BBC

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ΠΕΡΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΟΥ ΧΡΕΟΥΣ

Μια ενδιαφέρουσα ανάλυση της οικονομικής συντάκτριας του BBC Stephanie Flanders ,για την προοπτική της μη εξόφλησης του χρέους από την χώρα μας ή την επαναδιαπραγμάτευσή του. Ενδιαφέρον έχουν και τα σχόλια των αναγνωστών του BBC , πάνω στο ζήτημα του Ελληνικού Χρέους .
Το θέμα είναι πως έχω ιδιαίτερες αμφιβολίες αναφορικά με το αν οι κυβερνώντες πραγματικά εξέτασαν όλα τα σενάρια προτού μας φθάσουν ως εδώ .
Πιστεύω ότι δεν υπάρχει Έλληνας που δεν θα δεχόταν ακόμα και σκληρότερα μέτρα , αρκεί οι θυσίες του να μην πήγαιναν για να πληρώσουν τα golden boys της Goldman Sachs και των λοιπών hedge funds , αλλά να πήγαιναν για την αναδόμηση της χώρας.
Όταν έλεγα σε προηγούμενη ανάρτηση σχετικά με το ότι θα προτιμούσα να πάω στο χαμό με το κεφάλι ψηλά παρά προσκυνημένος και αντιμετωπίστηκα με χλευασμό από κάποιους ,δεν εννοούσα σώνει και καλά πεδία μάχης και επελάσεις ιππικού. Το να επιλέξεις ως έθνος μια στάση μη πληρωμής των παράνομων χρεών που δημιούργησαν οι κερδοσκόποι και μετά να αντιμετωπίσεις τις κυρώσεις της αγοράς , είναι και αυτό μια ΕΘΝΙΚΗ ΜΑΧΗ και με θύματα πολλά, πιστέψτε με.

Στο άρθρο του BBC τώρα
Ο τίτλος είναι :
Ελλάδα : Η αθέτηση εξόφλησης δεν είναι μια εύκολη προοπτική

Ένα συμπέρασμα που βγαίνει πάντως τόσο από το άρθρο , όσο και από τα σχόλια των αναγνωστών , του BBC (βλ. πρωτότυπο άρθρο) , είναι πως αν και το να αρνηθούμε να πληρώσουμε τα χρέη ή να τα επαναδιαπραγματευτούμε είναι κάτι επώδυνο , παρόλα αυτά σχεδόν εξίσου επώδυνη είναι και η εξυπηρέτηση τους χρέους


Greece :Default is no soft option

Stephanie Flanders | 16:58 UK time, Thursday, 6 May 2010

The head of the European Central Bank once again said today that a Greek default "would not happen". Every G20 official - in or outside the eurozone - will tell you the same thing: with markets as fragile as they are, it is unthinkable that a sovereign government would be allowed to default. Investors and experts are thinking about it all the same.

In fact, looking at the economic programme the Greek government has signed up to, many veterans of past debt crises would say a debt restructuring was only a matter of time. But it's worth asking how - and when - it is done. And how it would help.

As you'd expect, there's no rule book for countries seeking to default on their debt. It's not something the international system likes to encourage. But it's not as if it has never happened. There have been 40 defaults by sovereign governments in the past 20 years alone, and more than 70 since 1980.

Many of those governments were able to borrow again quite soon after - sometimes in a matter of months. But only when they were able to do a deal with all - or nearly all - the bond-holders on how much of the debt would get repaid - and over how long.

Russia took less than two years to restructure its foreign debt after declaring a moratorium in August 1998. Creditors lost about half of the value of the principal. A similar deal was done over the same period for Ukraine and its debt. But as we know, Argentina in January 2002 was different: messier and much more drawn-out. Offered only 30 cents on the dollar, some bond-holders are still holding out, eight years later. Only now is the country able to talk about borrowing again on international capital markets.

Research by IMF economists (The Costs of Sovereign Default, Working Paper October 2008) suggests the long-term cost of default for countries can be quite low: after a few years, governments don't even pay much of a premium on world markets. But the short-term cost to the economy can be huge. That would certainly apply to Greece today.

Imagine the Greek government stopped paying interest on its debt tomorrow. It would still have a primary deficit - excluding interest payments - of more than 8% of national income, and it might not have anyone to borrow that money from. That could mean more austerity, not less, especially if the country remained in the euro.

There would also be the collapse of the domestic banking system to consider, Greek banks being the largest holders of Greek sovereign debt. And that's before you get even to the costs of contagion for other countries, as investors wondered who would be next.

Many investors now think a Greek default - or debt restructuring - is inevitable at some point. They may be right. But it's no soft option. There are good reasons why European officials will keep saying it is unthinkable for as long as they possibly can.

Πηγή : BBC

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